Evertune Bass Bridge

[Bloody_Inferno]

Took them long enough, but bass guitars now have an Evertune option. Looks like a weird clunky Badass bridge, but if it works, it works.

[Chris]

I don't even have to click that to know that I want one for recording.

[Suho]

I don't know. I've played bass as much as guitar, maybe more, and honestly I don't recall any of the bases I've had ever going out of tune.

[Iron1]

Definitely looks cool. I've shied away from Evertunes due to folks saying it messes with bends. Granted, I've never tried one for myself to know firsthand.

Basses are hard enough to get good bends on the low strings - would this make it nearly impossible to do them?

And, I'm with Suho, my basses rarely go out of tune anyway.

[Lozek]

The main point of this is that basses are way more likely to go sharp when the note is struck. I quite often re-tune bass (and very low tuned guitars) based on the speed of the notes in the section when recording. Quick sections get tuned to the attack of the note, slow sections get tuned slightly sharper so that the main body of the note remains in tune with the guitars, which are less susceptible to pitch drift.

[Chris]

I can't speak for anyone else, but while I can hold my own if asked to do bass duties for jamming when it comes to recording I'm just not a good bass player. I've never really been a bassist so my technique is terrible - fretting correctly, the right way to pick notes, etc etc. I'm not a bassist and as soon as I stop focusing I end up fretting and picking everything like a guitar player, and as we all know that doesn't really work at all on bass.

Anything that I can get to compensate a bit for my bad form is a plus for me. If they make a Spector or proper Warwick w/one of these it'll be damn hard to resist.

[Leah]

I can't speak for anyone else, but while I can hold my own if asked to do bass duties for jamming when it comes to recording I'm just not a good bass player. I've never really been a bassist so my technique is terrible - fretting correctly, the right way to pick notes, etc etc. I'm not a bassist and as soon as I stop focusing I end up fretting and picking everything like a guitar player, and as we all know that doesn't really work at all on bass.

Anything that I can get to compensate a bit for my bad form is a plus for me. If they make a Spector or proper Warwick w/one of these it'll be damn hard to resist.

I mean there's nothing wrong with playing bass like a guitarist. Duff McKagan, Lemmy, etc.

Also, yeah I'm gonna want to try one of these on a nice 5 string.

[Chris]

I mean there's nothing wrong with playing bass like a guitarist. Duff McKagan, Lemmy, etc.

I mean the way that I fret notes and my natural pick attack, not compositionally. Good bass players fret super accurately because because the pitch changes slightly if you move around within the frets. As a guitarist IMO that doesnt' matter as much because I'm playing chords and fast licks or big chunky mutes and whatnot. If I do that on bass (fret less accurately, for example) the little pitch changes are way more evident. Stuff like that.

I punch in a ton when I do my own basslines just because as soon as I get carried away my lack of proper practiced technique steals the show.

[Alan]

I mean the way that I fret notes and my natural pick attack, not compositionally. Good bass players fret super accurately because because the pitch changes slightly if you move around within the frets. As a guitarist IMO that doesnt' matter as much because I'm playing chords and fast licks or big chunky mutes and whatnot. If I do that on bass (fret less accurately, for example) the little pitch changes are way more evident. Stuff like that.

The key with that is to fret right behind the note you are playing. If you are playing the third fret, push down right behind it, not in the middle of 2 and 3. Electric bass is a noisy instrument especially in a rock or metal context. Most of the crap you never hear in the final mix.

This is coming from a guy who primarily plays classic rock and metal, so take it all with a grain of salt.

[Iron1]

Lemmy

[Drew]

The main point of this is that basses are way more likely to go sharp when the note is struck. I quite often re-tune bass (and very low tuned guitars) based on the speed of the notes in the section when recording. Quick sections get tuned to the attack of the note, slow sections get tuned slightly sharper so that the main body of the note remains in tune with the guitars, which are less susceptible to pitch drift.

Yeah, this was the first thing that sprang to mind as soon as I saw the title of this thread. This makes WAY more sense on a bass, where you barely bend anyway, than a guitar. Doubly so because I don't have the patience for the sort of micro pitch correction you're talking about to really dial that initial sharpness out.

[Blazon_Stone]

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[mpexus]

So much effort for an instrument you can barely decipher anything in a Live situation...




Now I'm going to run and hide... :p

[Chris]

So much effort for an instrument you can barely decipher anything in a Live situation...




Now I'm going to run and hide... :p

Like 5 people here play live anyway. Which is still probably more than at /7/.

[RevDrucifer]

Definitely looks cool. I've shied away from Evertunes due to folks saying it messes with bends. Granted, I've never tried one for myself to know firsthand.

Basses are hard enough to get good bends on the low strings - would this make it nearly impossible to do them?

And, I'm with Suho, my basses rarely go out of tune anyway.

The three kinds of people that didn’t take the time to learn how to set up their guitar-

“Strat trems don’t stay in tune”

”Floyd’s are almost impossible to set up”

”Evertunes negatively effect bending”

The same people that say it effects bending are the same ones that start off saying something dumb like “You don’t even need to stretch the strings”, then when the strings inevitably stretch you get “It negatively effects bending, I’m selling it” If it effected bending it’d be 100% useless to me. That only occurs when the strings slip out of zone 2, which really only happens when the strings aren’t properly stretched or there’s an issue with the strings that would have been present on any guitar.

I almost wonder if the no-bending “feature” was more like a side-effect of the system and they just decided to market it as a feature instead. I’m sure some can find a use for it but there’d have to be some really poor technique issues to require it to begin with.

[Iron1]

The three kinds of people that didn’t take the time to learn how to set up their guitar-

“Strat trems don’t stay in tune”

”Floyd’s are almost impossible to set up”

”Evertunes negatively effect bending”

The same people that say it effects bending are the same ones that start off saying something dumb like “You don’t even need to stretch the strings”, then when the strings inevitably stretch you get “It negatively effects bending, I’m selling it” If it effected bending it’d be 100% useless to me. That only occurs when the strings slip out of zone 2, which really only happens when the strings aren’t properly stretched or there’s an issue with the strings that would have been present on any guitar.

I almost wonder if the no-bending “feature” was more like a side-effect of the system and they just decided to market it as a feature instead. I’m sure some can find a use for it but there’d have to be some really poor technique issues to require it to begin with.

Well, then maybe I'll look for one of these at some point. Honestly, I'd like to just find one in the wild and play the guitar it's on for a bit just to see. But, in the meantime, I'm totally fine with my Hipshot bridges.

[Iron1]

BrOla mentions these and talks about having prototypes in Solar basses. Starts around 5:40 in:

[Blazon_Stone]

The three kinds of people that didn’t take the time to learn how to set up their guitar-

“Strat trems don’t stay in tune”

”Floyd’s are almost impossible to set up”

”Evertunes negatively effect bending”

The same people that say it effects bending are the same ones that start off saying something dumb like “You don’t even need to stretch the strings”, then when the strings inevitably stretch you get “It negatively effects bending, I’m selling it” If it effected bending it’d be 100% useless to me. That only occurs when the strings slip out of zone 2, which really only happens when the strings aren’t properly stretched or there’s an issue with the strings that would have been present on any guitar.

I almost wonder if the no-bending “feature” was more like a side-effect of the system and they just decided to market it as a feature instead. I’m sure some can find a use for it but there’d have to be some really poor technique issues to require it to begin with.

Exactly!!! 100% correct here!!!
Nobody needs the "no-bend mode" of the Evertune.

Even if someone is close to the bend stop where the guitar feels pretty much like a normal guitar to bend and vibrato...
The strings still stays pitch correct without the jump!

And if a guitarist pressed strings so hard that they still go out of tune at that point, you dont wanna hear that person pitching the shit out of a normal guitar.

I always stretch the new strings with my Evertune guitars, otherwise what you described happens.
Just stretch them and enjoy the tuning stability for a coupel of weeks.
After a few weeks it might have drifted down or up maybe + or - a cent or two, but compare that to tuning between every take or song.
I take the Evertune.

[mpexus]

I will buy a guitar with a bridge like this when its also a Floating Bridge as well

[Blazon_Stone]

I will buy a guitar with a bridge like this when its also a Floating Bridge as well

Technically, an Evertune bridge already is 6 individual floating bridges
So you CAN divebomb with it one string at a time!

Watch entire video, I show how you CAN do divebombs on this bridge!