Headless hardware options?

[spilla]

Planning a couple of guitar builds, considering doing a headless if i can find decent hardware that doesn't break the bank. What options are around these days for hardware?

[Bloody_Inferno]

STEINBERGER - HeadlessUSA - Headless Vintage Guitar & Bass Resource

See if there's anything here for you. I ordered their R-Trem replacement for a Hohner and it's fantastic.

[jacksonplayer]

Are you doing your build yourself or having it done? I prefer the classic Steinberger S-Trem if you're going to go the headless route, but that would require different body routing than any of the fulcrum trem options. For fulcrum trems, there's the Steinberger R-Trem or the Hipshot that Kiesel is using now. Each requires different routing. You could also go with various fixed bridge options.

Also, do you want to use double-ball strings or regular ones? To me, headless would be a pain with regular strings--you have to clamp the strings at the head with Allen screws. Classic Steinbergers with double-ball strings stay in tune amazingly well, and you do a complete string change in about five minutes.

[James]

On top of the suggestions already made, ABM, Mera or Technology for Mucisians

[Adam]

Following as I might do a headless next 👍

[Darren]

Sophia tremolos look really nice, and are headless capable. They also use Floyd Rose routing templates, which is handy.

https://sophiatremolos.com

[spilla]

Awesome, seems to be way more options than a few yrs ago. I'll look into these. Also came across Tan Bridges. There was a build on reddit a while back, if i remember rightly he was happy with the quality. I'll try and find the post again.

http://www.tanbridges.store/

Are you doing your build yourself or having it done? I prefer the classic Steinberger S-Trem if you're going to go the headless route, but that would require different body routing than any of the fulcrum trem options. For fulcrum trems, there's the Steinberger R-Trem or the Hipshot that Kiesel is using now. Each requires different routing. You could also go with various fixed bridge options.

Also, do you want to use double-ball strings or regular ones? To me, headless would be a pain with regular strings--you have to clamp the strings at the head with Allen screws. Classic Steinbergers with double-ball strings stay in tune amazingly well, and you do a complete string change in about five minutes.

I'll be building this and im open to options ie hardtail/trem. That Steinberger sound interesting. Ive not played a headless before and haven't really kept up on the progress they made. All i remember was Strandberg being a pain to tune, i also didn't like the clipped strings on the strandbergs. Looks fucking dangerous! Looks like ive got a bit of ready to do..

[James]

That Tan stuff looks good. Clipped strings are always going to be a problem on any headless system that doesn't either use double ball end strings, or string backwards (ie having the ball end at the nut with the other end clamped in the bridge somewhat like a Floyd Rose). I toyed with headless designs myself on and off, with one thought being to design my own head piece with a channel through it that I could use to clip the strings off whilst still having something over them to prevent them catching on anything

[Leah]

That Tan stuff looks good. Clipped strings are always going to be a problem on any headless system that doesn't either use double ball end strings, or string backwards (ie having the ball end at the nut with the other end clamped in the bridge somewhat like a Floyd Rose). I toyed with headless designs myself on and off, with one thought being to design my own head piece with a channel through it that I could use to clip the strings off whilst still having something over them to prevent them catching on anything

With the ABM headpiece on my Forshage, you just need to bend the string ends back and forth for a bit and they break right off after the allen screws but inside the headpiece. Holds up great and no ends to poke anyone with.

[Leah]

Illustrating the above point:

[spilla]

I've been reading up on the offerings. I think im going to get the Hipshot hardtail system. Does anyone know what the difference between hipshots low pro and traditional headpieces are, other than looks?

[Darren]

I've been reading up on the offerings. I think im going to get the Hipshot hardtail system. Does anyone know what the difference between hipshots low pro and traditional headpieces are, other than looks?

They have different mounting locations depending on how the neck has been designed. The “traditional” headpiece mounts to the face, the low-profile one screws into the endgrain.

[spilla]

They have different mounting locations depending on how the neck has been designed. The “traditional” headpiece mounts to the face, the low-profile one screws into the endgrain.

I see that now, thanks Darren!

[spilla]

Illustrating the above point:

Cool tip thanks man!

[spilla]

Well, no going back now. I ordered the Hipshot hardtail (traditional). Thanks for the input peoples!