Bad day for Jon Oliva

[Chris]

[bigdave]

[Megametal7]

Fall of the mountain king. You would think he would have learned the lesson after Chris Olivia getting killed by drunk driver.. I guess not!

[jacksonplayer]

No jokes here. Sad to see that.

[Dbwells]

Damn he was arrested in the county I live in.

[Ghost.]

Fall of the mountain king. You would think he would have learned the lesson after Chris Olivia getting killed by drunk driver.. I guess not!

Truthfully, I think he never got over his brother's death. It was his best friend, you know?
Plus losing his other best friend, Paul O' Neill. Being stuck at home in a pandemic, no telling how much it has taken a toll on his mental-health.


I can't give my source away... I want to respect Jon's privacy and life.

But I can tell you all he is doing ok.

Praying for this man.

[Randy]

Sad situation although it must've been a sight, him arguing with the cops with that Jon Oliva voice of his.

[Megametal7]

Truthfully, I think he never got over his brother's death. It was his best friend, you know?
Plus losing his other best friend, Paul O' Neill. Being stuck at home in a pandemic, no telling how much it has taken a toll on his mental-health.


I can't give my source away... I want to respect Jon's privacy and life.

But I can tell you all he is doing ok.

Praying for this man.

I don't think you can get over on brothers death but that's not excuse to drive drunk. I have 2 relatives killed by drunk driver age 5 and 8 and their father had life changing injuries. The sad thing is they were not even driving, they were walking on sidewalk when car came off the road and smashed into them. kids died on the scene. their father passed away yesterday from stroke.

I dont feel any remorse toward drink drivers, no matter the excuse. You can call taxi, uber, ask for lift from friend/ family or fricking walk.

I like Savatage but it dose not change how I feel about drunk driving.

I hope he gets help he needs.

[Chris]

I don't think you can get over on brother death but that's not excuse to drive drunk. I have 2 relatives killed by drunk driver age 5 and 8 and their father had life changing injuries. The sad thig is they were not even driving, they were walking on sidewalk when car came off the road and smashed into them. kids died on the scene. their father passed away yesterday from stroke.

I dont feel any remorse toward drink drivers, no matter the excuse. You can call taxi, uber, ask for lift from friend/ family or fricking walk.

I like Savatage but it dose not change how I feel about drunk driving.

I hope he gets help he needs.

This.

[wombcannon]

Other than the obvious drinking and driving thing........he was caught with blow? The dude is 61 years old and very large, which already puts a strain on his heart. He also had a stroke a few years ago, has diabetes, and hes doing blow? If he hasn't been diagnosed with congestive heart failure by now than he will soon.

[Mike]

Here's hoping Jon gets some help and hopefully (finally) gets both clean and some closure on Criss (and Paul, for that matter.) I'm honestly amazed he's still alive.

[Randy]

Here's hoping Jon gets some help and hopefully (finally) gets both clean and some closure on Criss (and Paul, for that matter.) I'm honestly amazed he's still alive.

Jon Oliva's Pain, indeed.

[Mike]

Jon Oliva's Pain, indeed.

He lost Matt LaPorte, too. That's a lot of musical partners to lose.

[RevDrucifer]

My ex-wife’s twin uncles were killed by a drunk driver about 20 years ago, it devastated the family, obviously, to the point that whenever they’re names are mentioned, the majority of the family will still tear up and get quiet. It hit my ex very hard as she was really close to them and for 13 years, she was adamantly against drunk driving. When things started going downhill in our marriage, she started coming home from hanging out with friends just bombed. That was the first sign that I knew things were going wrong.

Ya never really know what the dude’s issues are. Myself and several of my friends will occasionally partake in certain party favors and not touch them again for months/years, it’s purely a situational thing. Not everyone who uses hard drugs is an addict. I know nothing about this dude’s past, so I dunno if drugs and booze have been a consistent issue for him or not. Regardless, he fucked up and hopefully this is enough of a wake-up call to look into why he’s making the decisions he’s making and he can move past it. If his health is already in shit condition, he’s certainly not doing himself any favors.

[Mike]

Ya never really know what the dude’s issues are. Myself and several of my friends will occasionally partake in certain party favors and not touch them again for months/years, it’s purely a situational thing. Not everyone who uses hard drugs is an addict. I know nothing about this dude’s past, so I dunno if drugs and booze have been a consistent issue for him or not. Regardless, he fucked up and hopefully this is enough of a wake-up call to look into why he’s making the decisions he’s making and he can move past it. If his health is already in shit condition, he’s certainly not doing himself any favors.

Drugs and alcohol have been an issue with Jon since the late '80s. When I first met the dude (in '88) he was self-medicating for his back pain on the road by popping a couple of Percocets and drinking a bottle of vodka. Every. Night. Of. The. Tour.

[wombcannon]

Ya never really know what the dude’s issues are. Myself and several of my friends will occasionally partake in certain party favors and not touch them again for months/years, it’s purely a situational thing. Not everyone who uses hard drugs is an addict. I know nothing about this dude’s past, so I dunno if drugs and booze have been a consistent issue for him or not. Regardless, he fucked up and hopefully this is enough of a wake-up call to look into why he’s making the decisions he’s making and he can move past it. If his health is already in shit condition, he’s certainly not doing himself any favors.

I believe he had a stint in rehab if i remember right. Ive had friends that would occasionally indulge (i never touched the stuff) but c'mon now. 61 years old, 500lbs, diabetes, stroke a few yrs ago and you're gonna dick around with that shit? I mean, i sort of get it if you're in you're 40s and you're hanging out with some buds you have not seen in forever and someone starts cutting lines but being morbidly obese and 61 years old?

[jacksonplayer]

If quitting and getting better was just a matter of making a rational decision, there wouldn't be any junkies anywhere. I'm sure Jon knows full well that he's effing up and killing himself slowly (or maybe not so slowly), but addiction doesn't work like that.

Let's just hope he can turn the corner.

[RevDrucifer]

I believe he had a stint in rehab if i remember right. Ive had friends that would occasionally indulge (i never touched the stuff) but c'mon now. 61 years old, 500lbs, diabetes, stroke a few yrs ago and you're gonna dick around with that shit? I mean, i sort of get it if you're in you're 40s and you're hanging out with some buds you have not seen in forever and someone starts cutting lines but being morbidly obese and 61 years old?

This, along with Mike's post, yeah, fully agreed, this dude has some issues he's got to work through.

My only reason for saying what I did is that when people tend to get busted with drugs, the automatic assumption is that they're an addict. Clearly this isn't his first run around the park with these issues, that's unfortunate and I hope the dude sees a different path. It would suck to spend your last decade or so on this earth living in that kind of hell.

[wombcannon]

This, along with Mike's post, yeah, fully agreed, this dude has some issues he's got to work through.

My only reason for saying what I did is that when people tend to get busted with drugs, the automatic assumption is that they're an addict. Clearly this isn't his first run around the park with these issues, that's unfortunate and I hope the dude sees a different path. It would suck to spend your last decade or so on this earth living in that kind of hell.

So I was watching this Savatage concert at work today (totally recommend watching this all the way through, fucking killer) and this caught me off guard. Pay attention to around the 29:50 mark...

[Ghost.]

I don't think you can get over on brothers death but that's not excuse to drive drunk. I have 2 relatives killed by drunk driver age 5 and 8 and their father had life changing injuries. The sad thing is they were not even driving, they were walking on sidewalk when car came off the road and smashed into them. kids died on the scene. their father passed away yesterday from stroke.

I dont feel any remorse toward drink drivers, no matter the excuse. You can call taxi, uber, ask for lift from friend/ family or fricking walk.

I like Savatage but it dose not change how I feel about drunk driving.

I hope he gets help he needs.

Oh no. I'm not using it as an excuse or trying to make it one.

I'm just saying is it those events, the driving force that keeps him turning back to these vices, you know?

If so, how do you overcome those addictions and pain?

Truth be told, I've never been drunk. I've never done drugs. So I have no experience in being addicted and overcoming such things.
I just hope that he gets the help he needs to not make these decisions that have deadly consequences.

[Shawn]

Damn...that's awful. I hope he gets help.

[Mike]

So I was watching this Savatage concert at work today (totally recommend watching this all the way through, fucking killer) and this caught me off guard. Pay attention to around the 29:50 mark...

Yep. Saw this tour at least four times (it's hazy, since I was hanging out with them. They were '80s rock stars, and there were plenty of the excesses you'd expect.

Also, the sadness of Ray Gillen being involved...

[Lee]

Thought this was going to be about that British twat who thinks he's American.

[wombcannon]

Also, the sadness of Ray Gillen being involved...

Guy had an amazing voice. However, his decisions were abhorrent.

[Megametal7]

Thought this was going to be about that British twat who thinks he's American.

Whos that? Tell me more pls…. I want to know