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    Bruce and more Brexit...

    Seems Bruce still didn't quit understood why people are mocking his Brexit decisions...


    "Now, in a new interview with Classic Rock, Dickinson pushed back against his critics, saying: "It's slightly disturbing that people cannot contemplate that other people have other views contrary to themselves. It's like a dog whistle, people start running around and jumping up in down in anger, and I think it's out of all proportion. If you decide to do something reasonably radical in any walk of life, there are bound to be teething problems. If you suddenly change from Windows to a Mac, there will be things that really piss you off as you get adjusted to the new operating system. And someone might say, 'Okay, in the long run, maybe being on a Mac will leave you better off, but in the meantime, how do we figure this out?' That's a perfectly reasonable position to take."

    He continued: "People are deliberately choosing to misunderstand the position I was taking in that interview. It's unfortunate that both sides are seeking to take revenge political advantage. And there's ultimately no point in that. Everybody has to get on. I have a German sister, I've a French partner who's half-Italian who chooses to live in England because she thinks it's great, and Brexit should make absolutely zero difference to those relationships. And it doesn't. It's only at the political level where they need to lock themselves in a room, and have no food or water until they figure this shit out."




    Bruce Dickinson has defended his past comments on Brexit, saying that he is "less concerned with IRON MAIDEN's position" and more worried about the "younger" British musicians who don't have the resources and the time to go through all the paperwork required to tour across Europe after Britain's dep...




    #2
    I don't like new Boomer Bruce.

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      #3
      Maybe he was always like this but we never knew since he rarely used Social Media to talk things except Maiden Interviews... people dont really change that much.

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        #4
        Bruce also made political statements in the past, though what I remember, reasonable.

        With the whole Brexit thing, he shot hiself in the knee. I don't really know the reason for it, but he seems heaviliy misinformed about what the EU actually is and does, what Britains place was in this, and obviously what leaving the EU means. He can have his opinion on "will be better in the long run", but to be surprised about the short- to midterm consequences being absolutely negative, that is just stupid. (please forgive me Papa Bruce, I still love you!!)

        Is it wrong media consumption? Also the few family members in UK with 65+ are on a similar "information"-level...

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          #5
          Originally posted by petereanima View Post
          Bruce also made political statements in the past, though what I remember, reasonable.

          With the whole Brexit thing, he shot hiself in the knee. I don't really know the reason for it, but he seems heaviliy misinformed about what the EU actually is and does, what Britains place was in this, and obviously what leaving the EU means. He can have his opinion on "will be better in the long run", but to be surprised about the short- to midterm consequences being absolutely negative, that is just stupid. (please forgive me Papa Bruce, I still love you!!)

          Is it wrong media consumption? Also the few family members in UK with 65+ are on a similar "information"-level...
          This "better off in the long run" is an interesting position for over 60s folk to have seeing in the "long run" they will all almost certainly be dead. That age bracket aren't known for altruism either....

          Now if I was a cynic I might say it's just easier to say that than "shit, we fucked that up didn't we?"

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            #6
            Originally posted by Nick View Post

            This "better off in the long run" is an interesting position for over 60s folk to have seeing in the "long run" they will all almost certainly be dead. That age bracket aren't known for altruism either....

            Now if I was a cynic I might say it's just easier to say that than "shit, we fucked that up didn't we?"
            The interesting thing is he doesn't even live in England anymore... he lives in Paris.

            Reminds me the neighbours of a friend of mine, typical British Retired couple with massive pensions living in French Countryside and voting Brexit because it was good for the Nation... the same Nation they decided to not live on because it was too expensive and they get more for their pound in France. When she (a brit herself) confronted them that they just fucked up her kids future, they just shrugged...

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              #7
              Originally posted by Nick View Post

              This "better off in the long run" is an interesting position for over 60s folk to have seeing in the "long run" they will all almost certainly be dead. That age bracket aren't known for altruism either....
              Very true.

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                #8
                The windows to mac analogy doesn't really work when you are forcing everyone else who is perfectly happy with windows over to an OS they don't want to use, doesn't support the features they use in their daily lives and is going to cost them more money to use in the long run.

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                  #9
                  My friend had to reply to some guy on FB Blabber page:

                  - he was not wrong, this was a good decision,. The issue is the poor execution.


                  Her reply:
                  - oh dear god, seriously? Poor execution?? 'We' not only decided to choose Brexit but then 'we' chose the clowns to implement it.
                  With all the respect in the world to Bruce, how the hell did he think this would pan out? The whole purpose of the European Union is to make cross boarder trade and movement easier and by voting for Brexit he chose to remove those benefits for all of us and for our children.
                  As a Brit living in Europe I can tell you we are a laughing stock and for a Brexiteer to now be whinging about the consequences of their action is frankly insulting.

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                    #10
                    Mr. Bruce, I still use windows 8.1 with half dead battery in the mouse, I'm ok with it :p:p:p:p

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by mpexus View Post
                      My friend had to reply to some guy on FB Blabber page:

                      - he was not wrong, this was a good decision,. The issue is the poor execution.


                      Her reply:
                      - oh dear god, seriously? Poor execution?? 'We' not only decided to choose Brexit but then 'we' chose the clowns to implement it.
                      With all the respect in the world to Bruce, how the hell did he think this would pan out? The whole purpose of the European Union is to make cross boarder trade and movement easier and by voting for Brexit he chose to remove those benefits for all of us and for our children.
                      As a Brit living in Europe I can tell you we are a laughing stock and for a Brexiteer to now be whinging about the consequences of their action is frankly insulting.
                      Problem with this "laughing stock" point, while absolutely justified and true is it just galvanises the "rule britania" wankers even more

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Nick View Post

                        Problem with this "laughing stock" point, while absolutely justified and true is it just galvanises the "rule britania" wankers even more
                        ThEy hAEt uS cOz dEy aiNt uS

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Chris View Post
                          I don't like new Boomer Bruce.
                          PRRUUUUNNE JUUUIIIICEEEE MYY BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTT
                          POOOOOPPPP RREEEGGUUULLLAAAAARRRRRRRR

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                            #14
                            Don't care.

                            A) He's Bruce Dickinson. Bruce Dickinson is above reproach.
                            B) Brexit isn't a breaking point issue to write someone off over in my book, being mostly economic. It's a right wing darling, but once again, it is mostly economic. Being economically misinformed isn't near enough for me to write somebody off, especially Bruce Dickinson.
                            C) He's put his money where his mouth is plenty of times in the past. Especially with the whole "playing in Sarajevo" phase. He has sounded off on Right Wing politics numerous times.





                            D) Eddie killed "Generic President not intended to resemble anyone living or dead as stated in the disclaimer and it is definitely just a coincidence he is a bloviating blonde fat sack of shit that looks kind of like...." in the new video and Margaret Thatcher. That's good enough for me. Of course Margaret Thatcher was before Bruce was in Maiden, so maybe some of the other guys are more left leaning.





                            E) Bruce Dickinson is above reproach. And thankfully one of the few times he's chosen to do something stupid, it wasn't that bad and mainly involved being wrong about economic issues. Besides, I think Bruce is a little ashamed of being wrong. He's usually not like a "stream of consciousness on Twitter" guy, but lately he's been going pretty hard about the vaccine, which is the most heavily politicized issue out there at the moment, especially in the states. I think part of the reason he's doing that is he is embarrassed that he jumped on the Right wing bandwagon.

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                              #15
                              Besides, although technically everyone knows Steve Harris and Rod Smallwood call the shots in Iron Maiden and wield more authority than Bruce, Bruce Dickinson was the one storyboarding the new video and the one behind the concept.

                              There was a pretty unsubtle "Mea Culpa" from Bruce in terms of "OK, maybe I was wrong about Brexit and Britain following the lead of the American right wing with their own outrageous 'British Donald Trump type ideas' is a bad thing".



                              You don't need to be a master at recognizing visual metaphors or picking up subtext to realize that is the worlds least subtle allusion to "OK, the UK totally embarrassed themselves on the world stage trying to compete with American Right Wing theatricality".

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                                #16
                                Look, unless he storms parliament with bear mace he can have whatever opinions he wants.

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Greg McCoy View Post
                                  Don't care.


                                  B) Brexit isn't a breaking point issue to write someone off over in my book, being mostly economic. It's a right wing darling, but once again, it is mostly economic. Being economically misinformed isn't near enough for me to write somebody off, especially Bruce Dickinson.
                                  You don´t seem to know much about Brexit then, if you think it´s just an economic issue.

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