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    So Vince Neil's first post pandemic concert is doing as expected...

    Vince Neil Tells Crowd 'My Voice Is Gone' At First Pandemic Era Solo Concert - Blabbermouth.net


    #2
    Did he yell random words in Mickey Mouse head voice for the first 14 songs in the set?

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      #3
      Originally posted by Randy View Post
      Did he yell random words in Mickey Mouse head voice for the first 14 songs in the set?
      That's been his delivery since the beginning, so I'm assuming yes.

      Back when he tried to make an effort...



      ...as opposed to now:

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        #4
        Meanwhile, his guitar player has a replaced hip and a fused spine from AS arthritis which he's suffered from all his life and is now like 70 years old, and is killing it up there.

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          #5
          Hmmm I might have to go back and watch Dirt again for the 4th time, but just for the build up of the Ozzy scene.

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            #6
            Saw them on Dr. Feelgood tour and he was 1000% better than that, this is sad. Dude, you have money, now have some freakin pride and walk away.... like you assholes said you where gonna do.
            "Slow Hand"

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              #7
              He's almost always been terrible live, and it sucks. I don't know why he can't sing even the most basic lyrics to his own songs though. I'm guessing cigarettes and COPD, maybe?

              I'll always be a huge Crue fan but this is a huge bummer, especially considering how spot-on and killing it the rest of the band was on their "farewell" tour.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Bloody_Inferno View Post

                That's been his delivery since the beginning, so I'm assuming yes.

                Back when he tried to make an effort...



                ...as opposed to now:

                Ham hit a dog!

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Chris View Post
                  He's almost always been terrible live, and it sucks. I don't know why he can't sing even the most basic lyrics to his own songs though. I'm guessing cigarettes and COPD, maybe?

                  I'll always be a huge Crue fan but this is a huge bummer, especially considering how spot-on and killing it the rest of the band was on their "farewell" tour.
                  Because his brain is mush and he still, ahem, self-medicates before going on, apparently.

                  Dr. Feelgood, indeed.

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                    #10
                    Still a favorite of mine

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                      #11
                      Wow, that was bad.

                      Did any of the '80s glam bands age well? I mean, we roast modern-day Mustaine and Hetfield around here, but they're positively dignified compared to this.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by jacksonplayer View Post
                        Wow, that was bad.

                        Did any of the '80s glam bands age well? I mean, we roast modern-day Mustaine and Hetfield around here, but they're positively dignified compared to this.
                        Twisted Sister (f we're talking performance)?

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by jacksonplayer View Post
                          Wow, that was bad.

                          Did any of the '80s glam bands age well? I mean, we roast modern-day Mustaine and Hetfield around here, but they're positively dignified compared to this.
                          Neither one of these bands are "Glam."

                          But they did live through the 80's and still destroy, Winger and Whitesnake.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by jacksonplayer View Post
                            Wow, that was bad.

                            Did any of the '80s glam bands age well? I mean, we roast modern-day Mustaine and Hetfield around here, but they're positively dignified compared to this.
                            I've seen enough Hetfield vids that I think he's doing well enough to turn in a good performance if he wants to. Mustaine (to me), seems a little rougher. But yeah, neither are anywhere near this bad.

                            Don Dokken and David Coverdale are extremely rough these days as well.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Budda View Post

                              Twisted Sister (f we're talking performance)?
                              So much this. I saw them a few years back and they fucking RULED. Makeup and all. Snyder is immortal, he's like Bruce Dickinson.

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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Randy View Post
                                Still a favorite of mine

                                Brutal.
                                "Slow Hand"

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                                  #17
                                  Hetfield seems like he's still a good singer, it's just that he learned how to "actually" sing. which is way less interesting than before he could sing properly.

                                  As far as glam bands go, Firehouse seems to have aged fairly well:

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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Jeff View Post

                                    I've seen enough Hetfield vids that I think he's doing well enough to turn in a good performance if he wants to. Mustaine (to me), seems a little rougher. But yeah, neither are anywhere near this bad.

                                    Don Dokken and David Coverdale are extremely rough these days as well.
                                    I was thinking more in terms of image, perhaps, but definitely. Dokken and Whitesnake weren't really "glam" bands the way Crue and Ratt were. Don Dokken wouldn't be so embarrassing up there on stage if he still had his voice. Coverdale is in his 70s and looks a little silly up there singing those juvenile lyrics with his fake blond hair and perma-tan (he's starting to look like someone's embarrassing cougar auntie), but at least he has that raw bluesy core that comes with being (more or less) one of the founders of the hard rock/metal genre.

                                    It's guys like Crue (even the non-Vince ones) who look extremely silly up there in their late 50s trying to rawk. They were all in "live fast die young" mode in their youth but didn't manage to die, and the results aren't pretty! Plus, that entire sub-genre was based heavily on looks--and schlubby 60-year-olds just don't work in that format even if their vocal cords aren't ripped to shreds.

                                    It didn't matter that young pretty Vince couldn't sing--the ladies all loved him, and the band were wild enough and heavy enough to get the guys interested too. He was born to be a glam frontman. You're just not going to get away with that shit when you're 60.

                                    As for Twisted Sister and Dee Snyder, it helped that they were all older and had done other things before the glam concept--which was also much more tongue-in-cheek for them compared to Ratt or Crue. They were sort of laughing at the absurdity of it even as they did it. That's why Snyder could pivot to just being a talented singer and frontman when the makeup got silly. He's (a) got the talent and (b) isn't using the glam shit as a crutch or gimmick.

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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by jacksonplayer View Post

                                      I was thinking more in terms of image, perhaps, but definitely. Dokken and Whitesnake weren't really "glam" bands the way Crue and Ratt were. Don Dokken wouldn't be so embarrassing up there on stage if he still had his voice. Coverdale is in his 70s and looks a little silly up there singing those juvenile lyrics with his fake blond hair and perma-tan (he's starting to look like someone's embarrassing cougar auntie), but at least he has that raw bluesy core that comes with being (more or less) one of the founders of the hard rock/metal genre.

                                      It's guys like Crue (even the non-Vince ones) who look extremely silly up there in their late 50s trying to rawk. They were all in "live fast die young" mode in their youth but didn't manage to die, and the results aren't pretty! Plus, that entire sub-genre was based heavily on looks--and schlubby 60-year-olds just don't work in that format even if their vocal cords aren't ripped to shreds.

                                      It didn't matter that young pretty Vince couldn't sing--the ladies all loved him, and the band were wild enough and heavy enough to get the guys interested too. He was born to be a glam frontman. You're just not going to get away with that shit when you're 60.

                                      As for Twisted Sister and Dee Snyder, it helped that they were all older and had done other things before the glam concept--which was also much more tongue-in-cheek for them compared to Ratt or Crue. They were sort of laughing at the absurdity of it even as they did it. That's why Snyder could pivot to just being a talented singer and frontman when the makeup got silly. He's (a) got the talent and (b) isn't using the glam shit as a crutch or gimmick.
                                      I've seen Coverdale twice in the past three years or so and he has delivered every time in like his basic Rock N' Roll voice. Not his crazy 87' voice.
                                      He has the guys singing quite a bit backups. Michael Devin (bassist) is the clutch for them vocally live. So good.

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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Ghost. View Post

                                        I've seen Coverdale twice in the past three years or so and he has delivered every time in like his basic Rock N' Roll voice. Not his crazy 87' voice.
                                        He has the guys singing quite a bit backups. Michael Devin (bassist) is the clutch for them vocally live. So good.
                                        I have only seen him once in concert--probably over a decade ago at the M3 Festival in Maryland. His voice wasn't great, but he was still trying to hit the late '80s high notes. He's naturally a baritone and shredded his voice by trying to sing in tenor range. When he sticks to his natural range, I've always thought he was amazing--especially in the early '80s.

                                        He retired Whitesnake for a while in the late '90s and put out a really bluesy solo album called Into the Light. It's a shame he didn't keep working in that area even in parallel with reactivating the late '80s Whitesnake sound.

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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by jacksonplayer View Post

                                          I have only seen him once in concert--probably over a decade ago at the M3 Festival in Maryland. His voice wasn't great, but he was still trying to hit the late '80s high notes. He's naturally a baritone and shredded his voice by trying to sing in tenor range. When he sticks to his natural range, I've always thought he was amazing--especially in the early '80s.

                                          He retired Whitesnake for a while in the late '90s and put out a really bluesy solo album called Into the Light. It's a shame he didn't keep working in that area even in parallel with reactivating the late '80s Whitesnake sound.
                                          I liked the Coverdale/Page album, too. Dude is 70 years old now, the fact that he's even considering a farewell tour is unreal. I'm betting he crushes it.

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                                            #22
                                            Check out some recent Stryper. Michael Sweet has no problem still sounding pretty much the same. Winger is still pretty solid. Extreme is another one that never missed a beat. And whenever Mr. Big does a random show, they seem to nail it.
                                            Coverdale definitely has good and bad days but yeah, he's David Coverdale and he can do whatever the fuck he want's. Dude is the rock star of rock stars.

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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by DonBot View Post
                                              Check out some recent Stryper. Michael Sweet has no problem still sounding pretty much the same. Winger is still pretty solid. Extreme is another one that never missed a beat. And whenever Mr. Big does a random show, they seem to nail it.
                                              Coverdale definitely has good and bad days but yeah, he's David Coverdale and he can do whatever the fuck he want's. Dude is the rock star of rock stars.
                                              He really is. His entire career is built on him shamelessly copping Robert Plant, but he's so unabashed about it, and so fucking kickass at it, nobody minds.

                                              Dude is definitely a legend. I wish I saw WS live back in the day.

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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Chris View Post

                                                He really is. His entire career is built on him shamelessly copping Robert Plant, but he's so unabashed about it, and so fucking kickass at it, nobody minds.

                                                Dude is definitely a legend. I wish I saw WS live back in the day.
                                                The day I graduated high school in 1990, as soon as the ceremony was over I hoped in my car, skipped all the parties, and went and saw WS(with Vai) by myself. No regrets.

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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Chris View Post

                                                  He really is. His entire career is built on him shamelessly copping Robert Plant, but he's so unabashed about it, and so fucking kickass at it, nobody minds.

                                                  Dude is definitely a legend. I wish I saw WS live back in the day.
                                                  You need to read the circumstances of him joining Deep Purple. It's nearly unbelievable. No joke. It's recounted numerous places. By David Coverdale himself. Probably best recounted in the liner notes for numerous reissuings of the "Burn" album, but if you don't have that it's told many other places.

                                                  Basically, even though everybody thinks he's a natural rock star with all sorts of swagger he was born with, he's actually a massive underdog success story.

                                                  When he first joined Depp Purple they were hesitant to let him join because he was "fat" and had an "unhealthy complexion/acne". He wasn't allowed to join until he went on a diet. He's actually a late bloomer. They also made him get contacts.

                                                  Yes. Seriously. It's an incredibly inspirational story. David Coverdale has told it himself numerous times. This isn't the full story but I'll see if I can find the Burn liner notes online.

                                                  https://geirmykl.wordpress.com/2015/...vember-9-1974/

                                                  There are actually pictures of him in some of the deluxe reissues of Burn when he just joined, and you would never in a million years believe that is the guy that went on to become "David Coverdale, 80s sex symbol".

                                                  As much as I don't like late era ultra commercial schlocky Whitesnake, I fucking love Deep Purple and early hammond organ and blues Lovehunter era Whitesnake, and David Coverdale is a cool, humble guy. That's the most amazing part about his life story. He's not naturally a swaggering rock star.

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