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Hmmm I might have to go back and watch Dirt again for the 4th time, but just for the build up of the Ozzy scene.Comment
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He's almost always been terrible live, and it sucks.I don't know why he can't sing even the most basic lyrics to his own songs though. I'm guessing cigarettes and COPD, maybe?
I'll always be a huge Crue fan but this is a huge bummer, especially considering how spot-on and killing it the rest of the band was on their "farewell" tour.Comment
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He's almost always been terrible live, and it sucks.I don't know why he can't sing even the most basic lyrics to his own songs though. I'm guessing cigarettes and COPD, maybe?
I'll always be a huge Crue fan but this is a huge bummer, especially considering how spot-on and killing it the rest of the band was on their "farewell" tour.
Dr. Feelgood, indeed.Comment
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Wow, that was bad.
Did any of the '80s glam bands age well? I mean, we roast modern-day Mustaine and Hetfield around here, but they're positively dignified compared to this.👍 1Comment
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But they did live through the 80's and still destroy, Winger and Whitesnake.Comment
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Don Dokken and David Coverdale are extremely rough these days as well.Comment
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It's guys like Crue (even the non-Vince ones) who look extremely silly up there in their late 50s trying to rawk. They were all in "live fast die young" mode in their youth but didn't manage to die, and the results aren't pretty! Plus, that entire sub-genre was based heavily on looks--and schlubby 60-year-olds just don't work in that format even if their vocal cords aren't ripped to shreds.
It didn't matter that young pretty Vince couldn't sing--the ladies all loved him, and the band were wild enough and heavy enough to get the guys interested too. He was born to be a glam frontman. You're just not going to get away with that shit when you're 60.
As for Twisted Sister and Dee Snyder, it helped that they were all older and had done other things before the glam concept--which was also much more tongue-in-cheek for them compared to Ratt or Crue. They were sort of laughing at the absurdity of it even as they did it. That's why Snyder could pivot to just being a talented singer and frontman when the makeup got silly. He's (a) got the talent and (b) isn't using the glam shit as a crutch or gimmick.👍 2Comment
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I was thinking more in terms of image, perhaps, but definitely. Dokken and Whitesnake weren't really "glam" bands the way Crue and Ratt were. Don Dokken wouldn't be so embarrassing up there on stage if he still had his voice. Coverdale is in his 70s and looks a little silly up there singing those juvenile lyrics with his fake blond hair and perma-tan (he's starting to look like someone's embarrassing cougar auntie), but at least he has that raw bluesy core that comes with being (more or less) one of the founders of the hard rock/metal genre.
It's guys like Crue (even the non-Vince ones) who look extremely silly up there in their late 50s trying to rawk. They were all in "live fast die young" mode in their youth but didn't manage to die, and the results aren't pretty! Plus, that entire sub-genre was based heavily on looks--and schlubby 60-year-olds just don't work in that format even if their vocal cords aren't ripped to shreds.
It didn't matter that young pretty Vince couldn't sing--the ladies all loved him, and the band were wild enough and heavy enough to get the guys interested too. He was born to be a glam frontman. You're just not going to get away with that shit when you're 60.
As for Twisted Sister and Dee Snyder, it helped that they were all older and had done other things before the glam concept--which was also much more tongue-in-cheek for them compared to Ratt or Crue. They were sort of laughing at the absurdity of it even as they did it. That's why Snyder could pivot to just being a talented singer and frontman when the makeup got silly. He's (a) got the talent and (b) isn't using the glam shit as a crutch or gimmick.
He has the guys singing quite a bit backups. Michael Devin (bassist) is the clutch for them vocally live. So good.Comment
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He retired Whitesnake for a while in the late '90s and put out a really bluesy solo album called Into the Light. It's a shame he didn't keep working in that area even in parallel with reactivating the late '80s Whitesnake sound.👍 1Comment
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I have only seen him once in concert--probably over a decade ago at the M3 Festival in Maryland. His voice wasn't great, but he was still trying to hit the late '80s high notes. He's naturally a baritone and shredded his voice by trying to sing in tenor range. When he sticks to his natural range, I've always thought he was amazing--especially in the early '80s.
He retired Whitesnake for a while in the late '90s and put out a really bluesy solo album called Into the Light. It's a shame he didn't keep working in that area even in parallel with reactivating the late '80s Whitesnake sound.👍 1Comment
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Check out some recent Stryper. Michael Sweet has no problem still sounding pretty much the same. Winger is still pretty solid. Extreme is another one that never missed a beat. And whenever Mr. Big does a random show, they seem to nail it.
Coverdale definitely has good and bad days but yeah, he's David Coverdale and he can do whatever the fuck he want's. Dude is the rock star of rock stars.👍 1Comment
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Check out some recent Stryper. Michael Sweet has no problem still sounding pretty much the same. Winger is still pretty solid. Extreme is another one that never missed a beat. And whenever Mr. Big does a random show, they seem to nail it.
Coverdale definitely has good and bad days but yeah, he's David Coverdale and he can do whatever the fuck he want's. Dude is the rock star of rock stars.
Dude is definitely a legend. I wish I saw WS live back in the day.Comment
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It's nearly unbelievable. No joke. It's recounted numerous places. By David Coverdale himself. Probably best recounted in the liner notes for numerous reissuings of the "Burn" album, but if you don't have that it's told many other places.
Basically, even though everybody thinks he's a natural rock star with all sorts of swagger he was born with, he's actually a massive underdog success story.
When he first joined Depp Purple they were hesitant to let him join because he was "fat" and had an "unhealthy complexion/acne".He wasn't allowed to join until he went on a diet. He's actually a late bloomer. They also made him get contacts.
Yes. Seriously. It's an incredibly inspirational story. David Coverdale has told it himself numerous times. This isn't the full story but I'll see if I can find the Burn liner notes online.
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There are actually pictures of him in some of the deluxe reissues of Burn when he just joined, and you would never in a million years believe that is the guy that went on to become "David Coverdale, 80s sex symbol".
As much as I don't like late era ultra commercial schlocky Whitesnake, I fucking love Deep Purple and early hammond organ and blues Lovehunter era Whitesnake, and David Coverdale is a cool, humble guy. That's the most amazing part about his life story. He's not naturally a swaggering rock star.Comment
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