Geoff Tate 2021

[Dbwells]

good stuff right here.

[Mike]

His voice is better in some of the vids I saw from last year, but this is a cool version.

[Chris]

His band is great, too. When I saw him right before covid hit, the guitarist was in a full leg cast. Dude rocked out on a bar stool for the whole set and still ripped it up.

[Dbwells]

Geoff should narrate some books on tape.

[RevDrucifer]

Geoff should narrate some books on tape.

Back when AOL was the primary method of internet usage, I remember getting into an argument with some guy in a Guitar chat about Geoff Tate and he said he felt Geoff was narrating everything from a book when he sang....so I suppose that’s appropriate.

[Dbwells]

some more sweet oblivion

https://youtu.be/tlpHNGDva5Q

https://youtu.be/Eax-jFaAkoA

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[DonBot]

I was a big fan of Todd being in QR because he could really nail the older QR stuff but just recently I saw him make some comments about how newer QR is way better the old QR and I really lost any faith I had in him. Dudes a great singer but Tate in his prime and also Operation Mindcrime... sorry Todd.

[Shawn]

There is a local band here who opened for him before covid in Portland, Maine and they were able to get some video, looked like a really awesome performance. Love Queensryche, and I was just listening to Empire a couple days ago, that album never gets old.

[Mike]

I was a big fan of Todd being in QR because he could really nail the older QR stuff but just recently I saw him make some comments about how newer QR is way better the old QR and I really lost any faith I had in him. Dudes a great singer but Tate in his prime and also Operation Mindcrime... sorry Todd.

Yeah, Tate in is prime is a Metal Mt. Rushmore singer. Todd's good, but not THAT good.

[Jeff]

I was a big fan of Todd being in QR because he could really nail the older QR stuff but just recently I saw him make some comments about how newer QR is way better the old QR and I really lost any faith I had in him. Dudes a great singer but Tate in his prime and also Operation Mindcrime... sorry Todd.

That's blasphemy. I've not always been an enormous fan of Tate as a person, but holy shit, the older QR is iconic. Todd is basically just the QR version of the guy from Journey. Diet Tate. Sounds like Tate, kinda, pretty much? But is missing something.

[Flexkill]

The older Tate gets and the more eyeliner he wears, the more he looks like Ming.

[Dbwells]

The older Tate gets and the more eyeliner he wears, the more he looks like Ming.

[jacksonplayer]

I was a big fan of Todd being in QR because he could really nail the older QR stuff but just recently I saw him make some comments about how newer QR is way better the old QR and I really lost any faith I had in him. Dudes a great singer but Tate in his prime and also Operation Mindcrime... sorry Todd.

That's not what he said. He said the current QR is making better music than it did when it had more original members. Read in context, he's clearly referring to all the crap the band put out after DeGarmo left...and he's not wrong.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/todd-la-torre-says-current-queensryche-lineup-is-putting-out-better-music-than-the-band-did-when-it-had-more-original-members/

[DonBot]

That's not what he said. He said the current QR is making better music than it did when it had more original members. Read in context, he's clearly referring to all the crap the band put out after DeGarmo left...and he's not wrong.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/to...ginal-members/

Well, fwiw, I just pretend anything post-DeGarmo doesn't exist anyway. And the most recent stuff just seems like they are trying to hard to be a "metal" band. And know that Rockenfield is apparently out, they should just drop the QR name.

[bigdave]

Jeff nailed it, Diet Tate Know your role Diet Tate.

[RevDrucifer]

There was a period around the last album Ryche put out that I dug it more than any other Ryche record at that point. Then a year passed and I haven’t listened to it since and Promised Land and RFO or still my favorites.

The spark that made Ryche Ryche is long gone. Promised Land was playing over the end credits, we just didn’t know it at the time.

FWIW, as amazing as Tate was back in the day, I’d be very curious to hear what those vocal melodies would have been like had the majority not been written by DeGarmo. During the lawsuit it was made quite apparent that Tate hadn’t had much input musically. And as much as people change and whatnot, the obvious difference in sound/feel/songs after DeGarmo left lends itself to that reality, IMO.

[Chris]

I was a big fan of Todd being in QR because he could really nail the older QR stuff but just recently I saw him make some comments about how newer QR is way better the old QR and I really lost any faith I had in him. Dudes a great singer but Tate in his prime and also Operation Mindcrime... sorry Todd.

This. I can't get into Todd-ryche. It's the same thing when Ripper was in Priest. Those two dudes can sing their absolute asses off, no doubt, but it just isn't the same.

[Chris]

There was a period around the last album Ryche put out that I dug it more than any other Ryche record at that point. Then a year passed and I haven’t listened to it since and Promised Land and RFO or still my favorites.

Promised Land doesn't get much love, but IMO it's the last really great QR album. It was definitely the beginning of their shift to the weirder end of their catalog but I still really liked it.

[DonBot]

Promised Land doesn't get much love, but IMO it's the last really great QR album. It was definitely the beginning of their shift to the weirder end of their catalog but I still really liked it.

Promised Land is fantastic. I almost feel like Empire and Promised Land could have been released at the same time. It really doesn't get the respect it deserves.

[RevDrucifer]

Promised Land doesn't get much love, but IMO it's the last really great QR album. It was definitely the beginning of their shift to the weirder end of their catalog but I still really liked it.

I just love the mood of that album and the title song hits home for me on like 2000 different levels. Some of the tones on there were fucking awesome….love the production and feel of it. It’s certainly not a Ryche album like the ones prior, but I love the space on it. All the acoustic stuff.

If PL was a reaction to grunge, then it was my favorite reaction to grunge out of any dudes back then who were changing up their music a bit as a result of the death knell from the 80’s.

[Chris]

If PL was a reaction to grunge, then it was my favorite reaction to grunge out of any dudes back then who were changing up their music a bit as a result of the death knell from the 80’s.

This is spot on.

[jacksonplayer]

Promised Land doesn't get much love, but IMO it's the last really great QR album. It was definitely the beginning of their shift to the weirder end of their catalog but I still really liked it.

I hear it as a return to the more progressive ethos they had on Rage For Order and Mindcrime.

Behind the scenes, things were getting more dysfunctional because--from what I've read--Tate was refusing to work on Wilton's songs (that's why there aren't any of his on PL or HITNF) since Tate didn't want to do metal anymore. DeGarmo was always the more melodic writer, so he was able to write songs that Tate would agree to work up. That dynamic had already started on Empire, but it became more pronounced on PL. That, and tons of marching powder consumed by all involved..

[Dbwells]

So Geoff Tate still going strong in 2022.