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    Mudvayne Reuniting

    https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/it...s-in-12-years/

    This is most likely the best news I will hear all week.

    The first time I heard them, I laughed my ass off because I thought it was the epitome of modern, shitty music. Yelling for the sake of yelling and just making noise on the instruments. Clearly, I wasn’t really listening. A few months later a buddy was dropping me off at my house and we heard this song on the radio, the chorus came in and the bass was doing these AWESOME arpeggios in it with a really unique vocal sound (“Death Blooms”) We both sat there listening and when I found out it was I had to bust my own balls for dismissing them previously. I was hooked from that point on.

    I tend to only think of Mudvayne as if their last two albums don’t exist. IMO, they were clearly a “Let’s get these albums out so we can fulfill our record deal and be done with this fucking band”. I’ve got a couple friends who toured with them back in the early 00’s and both of them said these guys used to pull into a parking lot, get off the bus and just wail the piss out of each other. Doesn’t really surprise me that they haven’t really wanted to reunite.

    I just hope they don’t carry on with the 3.5 minute songs; the very shit that made them amazing to me was the prog elements; odd times, non-standard song structures, spacey shit, which pretty much ground to a halt by the third album and was non-existent on their last two.

    Welcome To Rockville is happening in November, which they’ll be playing at. Not sure how safe I’m going to feel around that point in a large crowd of people. I suppose at that point, if people are still wearing masks and mostly vaccinated, it shouldn’t be too much of an issue. The thought of it up front is a bit jarring, though.
    The Karmic Law is not kismet. It is not fate but cause and effect. It is a taskmaster to the unwise; a servant to the wise.

    #2
    Such a band of two halves. Insane bass player with a really interesting drummer, the most boring guitarist and average vocalist (who used to use two mics so he could have distortion on his aggressive vocals). I love LD50 and one single from one of the subsequent albums, the rest I agree sounded like a band trying to get out of a record contract.

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      #3
      I'd listen to an instrumental MV album, absolutely. Their drummer is super creative and their bassist is obviously awesome.

      Vox are way too nu-metal for me, and I can't get past it.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Chris View Post
        I'd listen to an instrumental MV album, absolutely. Their drummer is super creative and their bassist is obviously awesome.

        Vox are way too nu-metal for me, and I can't get past it.
        This, basically. Though LD50 does have that nostalgic thing for me since I was a freshman in high school when it came out. Can still throw that one on and dig it.
        https://www.iamtheowl.com/

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          #5
          ha ha bass go brr brr deng

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            #6
            Originally posted by Chris View Post
            I'd listen to an instrumental MV album, absolutely. Their drummer is super creative and their bassist is obviously awesome.

            Vox are way too nu-metal for me, and I can't get past it.
            Unfortunately what's gonna end up killing the potential with this is Chad Grey's head is so big, he's gonna be the loudest voice in whatever they end up doing with it.

            In most of the Mudvayne stuff, the vocals aren't an awful placeholder because the rhythm section is SO jamming but I can see him coming in and making the guys basically perform as Hellyeah Pt. 2

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                #8
                Originally posted by Randy View Post

                Unfortunately what's gonna end up killing the potential with this is Chad Grey's head is so big, he's gonna be the loudest voice in whatever they end up doing with it.

                In most of the Mudvayne stuff, the vocals aren't an awful placeholder because the rhythm section is SO jamming but I can see him coming in and making the guys basically perform as Hellyeah Pt. 2
                Hahahah I see this tossed around every now and then, was there something he did or said at some point that has caused him to be called egotistical, outside of just being a singer? I can see why people bag on Portnoy all the time, but Chad barely even does interviews and has no social media.

                I love the sound of his voice, though my wife says it reminds her of sausage being pumped into the casing. He’s the entire reason (and Anselmo) I wanted to learn how to scream to begin with and 95% of the reason I learned to do it the wrong way. I’m surprised he can even talk anymore because he just fuckin’ blows his throat out night to night. He’s FAR from being a technical singer who is focused on technique and nailing shit, but that rawness is also why I dig him. I think he did some really creative shit on the first two albums and at worst, phoned it in on the last 3, but can still right a catchy metal chorus.
                The Karmic Law is not kismet. It is not fate but cause and effect. It is a taskmaster to the unwise; a servant to the wise.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by noodles View Post
                  I won’t post the screenshots of the night you kept me up until 4am telling me how concerned you were that they’d never get back together.
                  The Karmic Law is not kismet. It is not fate but cause and effect. It is a taskmaster to the unwise; a servant to the wise.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Randy View Post

                    Unfortunately what's gonna end up killing the potential with this is Chad Grey's head is so big, he's gonna be the loudest voice in whatever they end up doing with it.
                    Someone should bring him down a few pegs by reminding him that he's in Mudvayne. Maybe we can get the dudes in Powerman 5000 to talk shit to them, they probably aren't busy either.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by noodles View Post

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by noodles View Post
                        I uploaded that smiley today just for this thread btw.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by RevDrucifer View Post
                          Hahahah I see this tossed around every now and then, was there something he did or said at some point that has caused him to be called egotistical, outside of just being a singer? I can see why people bag on Portnoy all the time, but Chad barely even does interviews and has no social media..
                          When Mudvayne broke up, there were a bunch of interviews that basically said it wasn't so much that they weren't getting along or anything, it was just not making money like it was and the Hellyeah gig came along, notably with Grey and Tribbett (the least talented of the group) getting major roles and McDonough and Martinie out on their own.

                          There were some subsequent interviews with Martinie (who comes across as a super decent guy) where he said everything was done through their managers pretty much and he had zero contact with Grey/Tribbett in years. He'd get asked about a reunion and he basically said he would but they made it impossible to even talk to them, he wouldn't even know how to. That's juxtaposed with Grey being asked about Mudvayne or reunions during the Hellyeah gig and he pretty much acted like he never heard of 'em, I saw a few times he wouldn't even refer to the other guys in the band by name.

                          He also teased a few months ago he was working on a solo album and his "first single" was a track he recorded for his wedding, which was him covering "Always on My Mind" by Johnny Cash, which is the most self indulgent thing I've ever heard.

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                            #14
                            Who WOULDN'T reunite when you can get quality gigs like this?

                            * Inkcarceration Music & Tattoo Festival, which takes place September 10-12 at Ohio State Reformatory in Mansfield, Ohio. Early-bird passes are on sale now. Full lineup announcement coming Tuesday, April 20 at noon ET.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Randy View Post
                              There were some subsequent interviews with Martinie (who comes across as a super decent guy)
                              I always had this impression too, I watched the video where he stood in for Korn and he seemed super down to earth and focussed on doing an excellent job. Him playing with Ray Luzier is a match made in heaven.

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                                  #17
                                  I’ve always liked Mudvayne....never seen them live though, but I’ve always wanted to. Will be interested to hear new stuff.

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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by petereanima View Post
                                    ha ha bass go brr brr deng
                                    They should think about rebranding to this

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                                      #19
                                      My motto: if you don’t have anything nice to say, let Noodles say it, and agree with him.

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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by DonBot View Post
                                        I'm glad I clicked play on that.

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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Chris View Post

                                          Someone should bring him down a few pegs by reminding him that he's in Mudvayne. Maybe we can get the dudes in Powerman 5000 to talk shit to them, they probably aren't busy either.
                                          Man, I haven't heard that name in a while. Last time was when Guitar World was flogging them with all the other nu metal craze.

                                          I only mildly remember Powerman 5000 every now and then namely because Mike Tempesta is busy being the Fender Music Corp AR guy.

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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Chris View Post

                                            I'm glad I clicked play on that.
                                            I wanted to say something but I figured I'd just leave it.

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                                              #23
                                              LD50 is banging, but I couldn't give a shit about anything else they've done.
                                              www.terra.band

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                                                #24
                                                is nu metal having some sort of revival? i mean it has been almost two decades the last time it had any relevance. i've seen younger bands use nu metal influence or in some case just be a nu metal band. not that i mind. plus bands like this reforming again. i feel like growing up in india when this stuff was being shown i didn't care much for it because i didn't participate in the zeitgeist around it and there wasn't much of it here anyways. for me it was just enjoyable foreign music of my youth.

                                                why was nu metal despised so much? were real metal bros just upset their tired been there done that white boy 70's/80's rock/metal stuff was not the hot shit anymore, and instead it was the 90's white boy stuff that was taking over? i feel like in the grand scheme of things nu metal was rather inoffensive, packaged mainstream music, rocks last hurrah and a desperate attempt to stay relevant in the mainstream by joining forces with rap/hip hop and pop. nothing wrong with that. the most egregious thing was probably garbage rappers like fred durst trying to convince people that he can rap. that's about it. musically it was ok . not complex or anything. fun, silly good time and that's totally fine. weirdly enough i feel a lot of non white people and women(although they do rightfully complain about its hyper sexist/homophobic leanings, the upside is atleast nu metal bros were not openly talking/making music about being racist white nationalists so that was something) sometimes have rather fond memories of the scene, like they were welcomed more openly. like i've seen some hip hop/rap and pop and electronic musicians talk up nu metal a lot and even fans at times. atleast musically if not the vocalists. like the amount of time i see respect for people like wes borland or ryan martinie or even the guys from korn is honestly surprising.

                                                sometimes i do think that what happened if actual hip hop producers tried to make nu metal, and not rock producers shoehorning hip hop bits into their music. would things have been different if it was a genuine collaboration between hiphop and rock? who knows.

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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by 220BX View Post
                                                  why was nu metal despised so much? were real metal bros just upset their tired been there done that white boy 70's/80's rock/metal stuff was not the hot shit anymore, and instead it was the 90's white boy stuff that was taking over?
                                                  Pretty much this. I suppose it was the fact that Nu-metal took over the airwaves, therefore funding, booking and coverage shifted from more 'traditional metal', giving people the impression that 'their music was being taken away'.

                                                  It was probably a generational thing too, metal had been running for around 20 years so it was the first major shift into 'The kids are doing it wrong' parochialism. Personally, I didn't see how liking Mudvayne stopped me also liking Morbid Angel, it just meant more variety of music, although I suspect you'll soon experience in response to your post that certain fans still can't get over it a quarter of a century later.

                                                  Nu-Metal also brought one other thing to the mix in a social setting.........Girls. Metal clubs and parties suddenly stopped being such a complete sausagefest, I'm not sure grunting 'Blasphemy of the Holy Ghost' in some ladies face while windmilling furiously is gonna make the connection you're looking for.

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