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Do anyone here use wireless iem systems? I’m looking at either the Shure PSM 300 or the Sennheiser ew IEM g4. I guess I could just toss a coin, but real world experience is worth listening to, if anyone got it.
I did some research on this last year, right before gigs were shut down, and landed on this Shure product, too. Can't remember why , but I seemed to like it at the time. Once my bands are a few gigs deep (hopefully by the end of this summer), I play to purchase one to check it out. They're expensive, and I don't expect all my bandmates to get them, too, but as long as the drummer has a signal, he can just run wired, and the two of us will jubilantly enjoy the show with great sound
I've got a fair amount of experience with G3's. In my last band I built a whole band IEM rack with four G3's running individual stereo mixes via an antenna combiner and external paddle antenna. I've since sold most of it off, but I still use one unit and the antenna onstage.
I can't give you any direct experience of the Shure system as I've never used it, but anecdotally I've heard that they have quite a high noise floor and give a lot of hiss, which is what drove my decision towards Sennheiser originally. I can also say I've spent a fair amount of time around national and international touring acts and festival stages, I've never seen a Shure IEM system being used (guitar wireless is a different story).
One more warning also if you're tempted to go digital. With the rise of both networked audio/lighting equipment and WiFi networks for crews/venues/public, there are significant issues with setting up 2.4ghz wireless systems as they don't co-ordinate with local networks. It can cause audio drop-outs, other systems to lose network connection or WiFi networks to completely drop. Avoid avoid avoid.
I did some research on this last year, right before gigs were shut down, and landed on this Shure product, too. Can't remember why , but I seemed to like it at the time. Once my bands are a few gigs deep (hopefully by the end of this summer), I play to purchase one to check it out. They're expensive, and I don't expect all my bandmates to get them, too, but as long as the drummer has a signal, he can just run wired, and the two of us will jubilantly enjoy the show with great sound
Yeah, it’s an investment. But I joined a band (and quit the band shortly after) where the the drummer were obsessed with doing the IEM thing. For everyone. But he didn’t like or trust the wireless part. It meant being tethered in place with two xlr cables to a Behringer somethingsomething.
i’m thinking I’m already fullt embracing the Kemper as a live tool. It makes sense not amping it up to hear myself. But I want freedom, goddammit. 😄
I've got a fair amount of experience with G3's. In my last band I built a whole band IEM rack with four G3's running individual stereo mixes via an antenna combiner and external paddle antenna. I've since sold most of it off, but I still use one unit and the antenna onstage.
I can't give you any direct experience of the Shure system as I've never used it, but anecdotally I've heard that they have quite a high noise floor and give a lot of hiss, which is what drove my decision towards Sennheiser originally. I can also say I've spent a fair amount of time around national and international touring acts and festival stages, I've never seen a Shure IEM system being used (guitar wireless is a different story).
One more warning also if you're tempted to go digital. With the rise of both networked audio/lighting equipment and WiFi networks for crews/venues/public, there are significant issues with setting up 2.4ghz wireless systems as they don't co-ordinate with local networks. It can cause audio drop-outs, other systems to lose network connection or WiFi networks to completely drop. Avoid avoid avoid.
Awesome, thanks! I have some experience with the Shure glxd16 wireless. I loved the battery thing, but other than that I didn’t really gel with it. I do have the Line 6 relay G70, and it has been rea-he-he-lly stable (bet you redd that as Ace Ventura...😄), more than I initially thought it would be.
But I get your point about digital/wifi/2.4 hZ. I have actually been pointed towards the new (?) audiofusion thingy. I guess that is not an option as well then?
Awesome, thanks! I have some experience with the Shure glxd16 wireless. I loved the battery thing, but other than that I didn’t really gel with it. I do have the Line 6 relay G70, and it has been rea-he-he-lly stable (bet you redd that as Ace Ventura...😄), more than I initially thought it would be.
But I get your point about digital/wifi/2.4 hZ. I have actually been pointed towards the new (?) audiofusion thingy. I guess that is not an option as well then?
I ran a G90 for probably ten years with no problems whatsoever, I think it dropped out maybe once in that whole time, I thought it was literally one of my best ever purchases until.......losing my guitar signal consistently every night in the first song and having to swap to cable. It would be fine in soundcheck, my tech would line check with no issues, as soon as the intro came on, every tech in the room would start adjusting networked gear, all the phones would come out in the audience with photos/video being uploaded and hey presto, no guitar. I switched over to a borrowed Sennheiser system halfway through the tour, and then sold the Line 6 when I got back. Currently I'm running my own Sennheiser but actually contemplating a move to Shure UR4D as they are the industry gold standard at this point.
I spoke to some buddies who between them have teched for Slayer, Priest, Anthrax, Annihilator, BLS, Prong etc and they all said the same thing 'yep, it's a known issue, if our supports turn up with Line 6/GLX gear they will be hounded until they stop using them'. Believe me, decent WiFi is a commodity as valuable as gold on a tour, nobody wants to be the guy responsible for denying people their fix.
Audiofusion I've not heard of before, just had a very brief look through their website and it would suggest that there may not be the same issues as it's using a WiFi router that's announcing itself to other networks. In my current band, we use a Soundcraft system that allows us to control our own mixes via phones, in my previous band with the G3's I was using an X32 rack to achieve the same thing. Audiofusion looks like an interesting concept by using your phone instead of dedicated hardware, I'm sceptical because in my experience things like that can look great on paper but the practicalities can get in the way (Your phone auto-connects to another WiFi network when you're playing, somebody calls you and you've not given Audiofusion exclusivity etc).
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