Thermion Outlaw Delay and Boost Pedal

[desertdweller]

I think this is inherently very cool. Something I've noticed quite a bit the past few years is that every single multi effects unit out there introduces some form of tone change. It could be from how the unit converts a tube amp signal to digital, or it could be something to engaging the effects loop circuit on the amp head. Or I could need more buffers.

Either way, I'm liking the idea of using more analog effects or true bypass pedals. So how do I go from rhythm to lead with the press of one button? My lead sounds only really need a delay on them, and there seems to be only a handful of delay pedals out there that include a solo boost circuit. This one seems to be relatively unknown, the demo video below from the company that makes it has less thank 2k views.

This pedal solves a problem clearly, allowing me to go from a rhythm sound to a solo boost lead sound with delay, without using digital multi-fx units, and with the press of one button. Is there a better pedal out there for this? The only other one I know about is the Tech 21 DLA.

[Adam]

Interesting! So is it supposed to be a clean boost in the loop? Or go in front of the amp?

[desertdweller]

If I get one, I'd put it in the loop and use it as a solo boost. That seems to be how it is designed. If I was playing in a live band, this might be all I'd really need in the effects loop to switch from rhythm to lead, depending on the amp.

I guess I figured this is a common desire players have, and I'm surprised maybe it's not, seeing how there's so few of these types of pedals on the market. Not every amp has a solo boost, and having it available in a pedal you'd usually put in your amp's effects loop seems efficient.

Or every metal/lead player just has a Strymon Timeline and calls it a day

[Drew]

Surprised no one's done this yet, TBH. A lot of the features that make this irrelevant - built in amp solo boost, or a channel-assignable FX loop - seem to be pretty much Mesa-only options, so this gives guys playing Marshalls a fighting chance to not feel left out.

[Alan]

That is pretty neat. I've been looking for something similar and wasn't having much luck.

From my research, some of the Strymon delays can add up to 6dB which should be enough for a solo boost. Another way to do it is to get a true bypass looper and put both a boost (like a TC Spark) and a delay pedal in that loop, then engage the loop for solo sounds. That way you can use whatever delay pedal you like.

[Drew]

That is pretty neat. I've been looking for something similar and wasn't having much luck.

From my research, some of the Strymon delays can add up to 6dB which should be enough for a solo boost. Another way to do it is to get a true bypass looper and put both a boost (like a TC Spark) and a delay pedal in that loop, then engage the loop for solo sounds. That way you can use whatever delay pedal you like.

Huh, is the Timeline one of the by chance?

[desertdweller]

The only other pedal I've seen that does this is the Tech 21, and yeah I've heard as well that the Strymon ones can provide a boost, but I have no first-hand experience to pull from. The only drawback to the Tech 21 pedal is that it's fairly large, but I bet it's probably pretty good as I've always been impressed by their gear ever since I played Drew's practice amp way back when.

[Alan]

Huh, is the Timeline one of the by chance?

It looks like at least the Timeline can as well as the dbucket. And they can only boost or cut up to 3 dB, not 6 dB.

[desertdweller]

So this is pretty cool, apparently they really are just getting started. I decided to pull the trigger and get one,, and these pedals are hand-numbered right now: